It has been a little over 3 months since Xiao Zhan (肖战) became the target of an online wide smear campaign that resulted from the AO3 scandal. During this period, he was often criticized for not addressing the issue directly and not “managing” his fans well. Xiao Zhan finally addressed the incident in an interview with Economic View on May 6 and talked about his thoughts on maintaining a relationship with his fans.
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Interviewer: On April 25, you posted this on Weibo: “Whatever happened in the past will be engraved in my memories. Thankful for all the well intended criticisms and pointers for improvement. Maturity is part of the journey.” After this was posted, it attracted a lot of attention. There were a lot of different interpretations online. When you posted that Weibo, what were your most genuine thoughts?
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Xiao Zhan: When I was 23 years old, I was a normal person who entered the entertainment industry by chance. I think bearing this sense of responsibility is unprecedented. To me, it was greatly unprecedented. This is a transformation of identities. The most important thing to me is the transformation in mentality. My expectations of myself has always been to constantly improve, to always be in a state of learning.
Some time ago, there was some controversy related to me that happened. In fact this controversy happened during the most crucial period when the whole country was fighting the outbreak. Actually, when I was at home in self quarantine at the time, I felt very uneasy and regretful. If it’s because of such controversies that have impacted netizens and given them trouble, I want to sincerely say I’m sorry to them right here.
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Interviewer: On Weibo you also mentioned “Thankful for all the well intended criticisms and pointers for improvement.” What are those criticisms and pointers actually referring to?
Xiao Zhan: Since I debuted to now, well intended criticisms and pointers for improvement have never discontinued. In the beginning from being a normal person going on stage, having to dance and sing, at that time, I’ve never had any professional training in dancing. As for singing, I didn’t systematically practice it either. At that time, whether there were a lot of friends, or elders, or netizens, they all had pointed out a lot of well-intended criticisms and pointers for improvement. I personally welcome it very much because I feel like these kind of pointers will allow me to improve.
Of course there are some malicious comments, especially some rumors and slanderous comments. I think it wasn’t just directed towards me. They were troubling a lot of my friends and even my family. They did some hurtful things to my family.
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Interviewer: When you first saw these malicious rumors and slanderous comments, what were you feelings? Would you feel very wronged?
Xiao Zhan: Actually, it’s not about feeling wronged either. I think it’s more about not being able to figure it out.
Interviewer: When you couldn’t figure it out, what did you do to resolve some of those emotions?
Xiao Zhan: It was like a while ago, a friend sent me a text to enlighten me. He said a phrase to me that I thought was especially good. He said “When you’re serious, go to work. When you’re confused, go read. When you’re alone, ponder. When you’re sad, go to sleep.” I feel this phrase greatly summarized my situation during these past few months. Just like I said before, a lot of times I was pondering, reflecting on whether or not I was sensible when was I younger, that I expressed some not so good comments. I was around 19 or 20 at the time, I remember I just started using Weibo. I completely didn’t realize that on such a public platform, leaving comments on someone else’s Weibo and then expressing some inappropriate views. I think I must’ve created some harm and impacted them. So today, I especially want to apologize for the impact that resulted from my inappropriate comments in the past and I want to say sorry to the people I’ve hurt because of some of my views.
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As an artist, as a public figure, after receiving everyone’s attention, I personally experienced that the more attention you get, the more responsibility you have. So I hope my path going forward, I can release more of my energy and good intentions, be worthy of everyone’s attention and love. Also, another point is to always have a grateful heart. This was what I was taught by my family since I was young. Just quarantining at home this time, I saw a lot of news. What touched me the most was a mother, she put down her child and tearily told him, “Mama is going to fight monsters now.” She wants the child to live in a really perfect world. She used her own motherly love to separate the bad things. So I really want to say I’m grateful for each person who are fighting hard in their position and taking serious responsibility.
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Secondly, as an artist, whether it’s being an actor or a singer, I need to constantly elevate my acting skills, practice my singing abilities, hone my acting skills and present a good project to give back to everyone. Even though since my debut, it seems like I don’t have any memorable projects or results to show for it, but I will continue to grow. I want to continue challenging different roles and sing even better songs for everyone. To me, this is what “maturity is forever part of the journey”.
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Interviewer: Because you were a normal person before, it seemed like after getting popular with “The Untamed”, your fanbase seemed to have grown a lot overnight. What type of experience is it to have so many fans?
Xiao Zhan: From being a normal person to being a public figure, receiving so much attention and love, I really feel very lucky. I don’t even know who they are. I don’t know who they are specifically, where they’re from, how they look, but once I found out so many people were supporting me and using their own power to do charity in my name, spreading this love and power to everyone, I really felt the power they gave me. Like I said before, I really hope I can do even better so I can be worthy of their fondness.
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Interviewer: I believe having so many fans will bring some worries. Just like now, there is a popular saying that “idols should manage their own fans well”. What are your views on this?
Xiao Zhan: Yes, this word has been revolving around me these past few months. I have seriously pondered about this. I also discussed this word with my staff members. First off, I don’t agree with this word. Speaking for myself, I don’t agree with it. Because I feel people who support me and those who love me, we don’t have a boss/employee relationship. “Managing”, this word, I don’t think our relationship is that of a boss and employee. Moreover, I think our relationship is more of equals.
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As an artist, as a public figure, for myself, I need to do my job well, perform my roles well, sing my songs well, treat my projects seriously, use my actions to do some positive things, to guide the people who love me. I think this is truly what I need to do and is also what I’ve been wanting to do and what I am doing right now. So to the people who like me and support me, I hope they won’t do anything so extreme that would hurt others, hurt themselves. I hope they can protect themselves well, love themselves, live their life well. This is the most basic. If there is a chance or possibility, whether it be through work or studying, we can use our actions together to do even more to help others and do more meaningful things for this society.
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Interviewer: What do you advocate your fans to do to make this world a better place?
Xiao Zhan: I think doing charity work is actually what a normal person should fulfill as their civic duty. Especially public figures like me, who receives attention from everyone, should bear more of this civic duty. Actually, while quarantining at home during the outbreak, I was just like everyone else. I was following the progress of the outbreak everyday. During this time, I also used a bit of my power to help everyone, rally everyone. That charity project team was actually started by my fans with the help of my team to support the promotional site. We want to use a small platform to spread a little bit of my good intentions. In fact, I think doing charity has always been a long term thing that requires persistence to continue on. In the future, I will also personally participate in such events. Of course, if it can influence even more people to participate, then let us all use our ordinary heart to do an ordinary thing.
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That’s one of the most heart wrenching 10minutes of my existence. It still puzzled me greatly how a celebrity can be a subject of cyber abuse and shamelessly victimized for a crime he did not commit. On how a idol should manages his fan base well – I can’t help but to disagree. Xiao Zhan has twice the amount of fans of the entire Singapore population combined; how is it possible for one to govern the behavior of an entire country? That’s ridiculous. He’s just unlucky the person who reported Ao3 happens to be his fan and not someone else’s.
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Xiao Zhan es una persona maravillosa y sensible, es atacada por los egoístas motivos de siempre, pero zhan zhan es fuerte y saldrá fortalecido de todo esto. Te amamos Zhan Zhan.
As an American fan of Xiao Zhan, I was floored by the attacks on his character for an incident he did not cause. I don’t understand how such a regimented government and culture is so dependent on “netizans” and “super fans”. It’s all just a big popularity contest! The term they use in China is Idol, but I’m my understanding, that is someone or something you worship. This sentiment obviously encourages unhealthy fanatical behavior. I applaud him for his courage and sincerity, kindness and compassion. I wish him ultimate success and love!
Don’t think he needed to apologize for something he didn’t do as he was the victim of mass cyber bullying, but he still did. Really demonstrates his sincerity, accountability, and bravery. In regards to whether celebrities control their fans – definitely no in my opinion. Each person is responsible for their own actions. Celebrities are not the fans’ parents or legal guardians. Imagine Apple held responsible for a random customer bashing another person in the face with an Apple MacBook. Similar analogy.
Xiao Zhan you are an amazing and wonderful made.. It’s really hurtful seeing him like this Xiao Zhan always have a smile on his face thank you for just bring yourself in very you do.. you are kind and peaceful person we you fans love you and will continue supporting you.
Thank you for just been you 💙💙💙💙
Watching this interview was such a heartbreaking experience for me, Xiao Zhan has matured alot in these past three months. I as a fan, feel so apologetic towards him because he got unintentionally hurt by our behaviour.
Xiao Zhan had nothing to apologize for anything but he still did! And that too on a public forum! He was not obliged to anyone to give justifications for other people’s actions but he still did! He apologized for something that he himself was the main victim of. Never once during his interview he called out any hater or complaint against any malicious comment. One can feel just by comparing his post and pre Ao3 incident interviews that what we are seeing now is a very different Xiao Zhan than before. This post Ao3 Xiao Zhan is more conscious, experienced and mature.
My respect for Xiao Zhan has just increased to 100 folds high after watching this interview. I feel proud to be a part of his fandom.
I don’t know what to say but…its really hurts me to see him in that situation..😷😷 I tearing while i reading this. 😢So sad that I can’t understand every words he say while i watching his video intrv..and fortunately i can read the translation here. Thanks for the translation 💕 I just admiring him for being humble and heart-warming.. Im touching about his cares for his fans to live their life well.. He just spreads a lots of love..😢💕I just hoping that he will live a happy life just like before..💕💕
first of all I want to thank 38 jie2 for translating the interview. ever since seeing the weibo post, I’ve been waiting for someone to translate it so I can understand. this interview hurts me a lot. it makes me cry T_T the way he says sorry almost all the time. and how he is saying that he was wrong (I don’t think he is) breaks my heart. I thank him for being mature and to live his life. I love seeing him in shows. I love to see and to know that he is coming back after the incident. many of my favorite k artists/idols are dead due to suicide so right now I’m content just to see him living his life ☺️ #weloveyouxiaozhan
Honestly, watching this interview shattered my own defenses somewhat. He has put himself out there with such grace and intelligence; so dignified in way that you really couldn’t sense the hurt until you hear his voice straining.
But I think this is the catalyst that signifies it’s time to move forward to bigger and better things for him. This situation is a cruel stepping stone that essentially everyone can learn from and, instead, convert it into great progress.
He looks tired but I trust he’s taking care of himself.
I hope everyone here is taking care of themselves too.
It broke my heart reading that he was apologizing so many times – it is not his fault. Sure, it started with his fans and all, but he is still a human. Humans make mistakes, no one is 100% perfect, even an idol is not. But some people easily forget that. He does not know nor he can control every one of his fans.
I love how he said criticism is something he welcomes, not fights with. That he is using it to grow and learn. I’m so proud <3
Stay the same, Xiao Zhan. This whole thing will end one day and until then, stay strong. You have many fans all over the world and they love and support you.
Shine on Xiao Shan you have a beautiful soul. You are right, you can not personally manage your fans. I hope this never happens again, it truly broke my heart to see you placed in this position, through no fault of your own. You gave to me something special that you will never know of. Thank you. You continue to do your very best, continue to grow and never lose that light you carry in your heart.
This is such a thoughtful interview and really shows the true nature of Xiao Zhan. Rather than hating the world and becoming defensive, he shows to use this as an opportunity to learn and grow . I see him growing even bigger after this 😊.
But what is he even apologizing for about when he was 19/20?